[quote]I hear you KeithW and can certainly relate ! I bet she sounds great at Redline. . Unfortunately I don't have a tacho in mine, but I doubt I have exceeded 4 grand more than once, er, or twice ..........[/quote] no she does not sound great ,it sounds like a strangled warewolf ,but fun anyway, it has one of these chinese $18 ebay shift lights so that i can keep her in the red ! staying on topic here ,did you guys know that holden made 400million of these non snob engines at fishermans bend and exported them all over the world ?