2009 KTM RC8R: Orange or Lemon?
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2009 KTM RC8R: Orange or Lemon?

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By BikeReview - 22 June 2021

Test by Jeff Ware Photography by Keith Muir

To say that the 2008 KTM RC8 was a flop is an understatement. I still remember riding it at the official Australian launch, a few months after we had attended the World Launch in Portugal, and as I lapped Eastern Creek, I just could not believe how badly the bike handled.

Thankfully, the engine stopped, and I didn’t have to keep riding the bike. It was a massive shock and needless to say, the bike got beaten in all of our Sportsbike Shootouts that year, even by the Buell 1125CR…

The very first RC8 was a disappointment in the chassis and engine department.

Fast forward to 2009 and some subtle but well learned changes were made to the up-spec new KTM RC8R and wow, did KTM come back with a vengeance… It was fantastic! Chalk and cheese… and definitely destined to be a good bike to collect if you can find one out there…

Lots of grip was available from the sticky Pirelli tyres. 

From the outset, KTM declared the first RC8 a road-based machine, designed to be a good comfy torquey sportsbike on the street. Unfortunately for KTM, the bike was not quite ready and 2008 was a disaster for the Austrian manufacturer. Their first ever road bike was criticised by much of the world’s media for lacking top end power, suffering gearbox issues and many handling problems. It was a hard time and must have been tough on company moral. So, to stick to their plans of a follow up race version and come back as strong as they did with the RC8R, was an outstanding achievement.

A mint one these days would be hard to find but definitely worth collecting.

The RC8R was not your run of the mill R version – too many manufacturers stick some nice suspension and wheels in and slap a few stickers on to gain that R status.

This bike was designed purely for the track day rider, serious sportsbike owner or racer. It’s all performance and high-end kit but cost over thirty grand!

The RC8R had a host of refinements. A capacity hike due to a larger 105mm bore size, taking the bike out to 1195cc, revised camshafts with longer duration and the same lift, new crankshaft, forged conrods, twin balancers, gearbox shift mechanism, revised chassis geometry and refined suspension settings, forged alloy Marchesini wheels, sticky Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa tyres, higher 13.5:1 compression, ECU controlled anti-hop and lots more, not to mention sensational styling…

There is no denying the 2009 RC8R was a stylish beast…

My first outing on the RC8R was at the former (now SMSP) Eastern Creek Raceway in Sydney. The bike was delivered to me by KTM Australia for an exclusive test and set to the recommended track settings – five out for rebound and comp and three out for preload on the forks, 10 clicks out for rear comp, one turn for rear high-speed comp, five clicks for rebound and 8mm of spring preload.

This equates to approximately 50 per cent firmer on the front and 25 per cent firmer on the rear compared to street settings and worked well with no further changes required at the track on the day.

187kg wet with 170hp. That was a fast V-twin in 2009 and still is today. This was before traction control!

The bike also had a brand-new set of Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP tyres – the rear being a 190/55 section, which is standard fitment. Gearing was also standard.

The R looked fast standing still, no doubt about that, but out on the track was the real surprise.

190-section rear Pirelly and forged alloy wheel
Radial mount Brembo calipers and 320mm Brembo rotors.

After a few laps to scrub the tyres I got stuck into it. Being 185cm and 90 – plus kilo’s meant I was often cramped on the current crop of superbikes. Not so on the RC8R. There was so much room around the bars and tank, plenty of legroom and knee room, it was easy for me to tuck behind the screen and the bike feels very natural. This is important to me – I’m one of those riders that needs loose leathers and lots of movement to feel confident and limp on a bike to get up to pace. That was instant on the RC8R…

The RC8R was on rails compared to the RC8. I just could not believe how much it had improved in one year. 

The standout was the power increase. The bike pulled from 4000rpm but really hauled from 6500rpm to just over 10,000rpm where the limiter kicked in. The mid-range felt stronger than a Ducati and the top end much closer than it was. As a result, top speed on the long chute at Eastern Creek was up and the bike was much more raceable.

The gearbox action was smooth and precise, and I had no missed gears whatsoever. The clutch action was light and very controllable. I’m old fashioned and use a lot of clutch slip into turns. Combine this with the improved ECU control of the rear cylinder butterfly on closed throttle (the ECU opens the rear throttle valve slightly on corner run in to de-vacuum and reduce engine braking – called Engine Braking Moment Compensation), which is extremely effective, and the RC8R was one of the best behaved superbikes into turns I had experienced.

The RC8R needed a lot of lean angle.

Initial turn-in was sharp, in fact, the RC8R was more nimble than the opposition despite the stability of the increase in trail. Turn-in on the brakes was great. The Brembo package offered good feel and reaction to small inputs to give good control. Front tyre feel was improved in this situation over the RC8, however, I still didn’t feel 100 per cent comfortable there.

The amazing revised LC8 engine. It was something else for 2009. 

The bike tipped in with grace and control but needed slightly more lean angle than other superbikes to carry the same speed through a turn, or to effectively execute a turn without running wide. It was when on this extreme lean angle that I wanted more front feel. The increase in trail, however, did give me some reassurance that there is a bit more tyre on the track than on the RC8. Ground clearance was not an issue and the bike was very settled and comfortable on its side.

A lot of corner speed could be carried on the RC8R.

Off turns the RC8R was a missile. It loved big sweeping classic lines and with a clear track ahead I found I could really wind the KTM up. I experienced no initial throttle snatch on opening mid turn, although I did read other reports in 2009 stating some issues, this particular press machine was fuelling well on the track.

Initial turn in was fast and accurate.

At wide-open throttle off corners the rear tyre hooked up well. I experienced no wheelspin or sliding on the bike while circulating in the 1:40 bracket. A slower time on the RC8 in 2008 had it spinning everywhere and backing in too.

Drive off corners was exceptional with no wheelspin.

The RC8R was one of the most stable and competent brakers on the market. From flat in fifth off turn one to first gear turn two, braking extremely hard, the bike did not even get the wheels out of line unless I was playing around with a bit of rear brake. As a track bike the KTM RC8R was a HUGE improvement over 2008 RC8 Lemon.

The RC8R had a strange upright riding position. 

KTM RC8R TECH TALK FROM 2009
The dry sump power plant consists of two 75-degree V cylinders, with a bore and stroke of 105 x 69mm, 2mm up in bore size on the RC8. The upgraded four-valve heads have a more compact combustion chamber but the same 42mm in and 34mm EX titanium valves and finger followers. New revised camshafts give greater duration with unchanged lift and have adjustable sprockets as standard – great news for superstock racing!

We dyno tested the bike at the time and the results were very impressive.

The waterpump has been redesigned to improve flow to a larger radiator, and power is up 15-horsepower 250rpm higher in the rpm range, with torque up a few ft-lbs also.

Compression is up 1 full point to 13.5:1 and the 52mm throttle-bodies from the RC8 are retained. The much talked about gearbox of the RC8 has been refined and a reshaped gearshift star has improved shift. Due to the bigger forged pistons and revised forged conrods, the twin counterbalancers have been revised and dampen vibes above 8000rpm.

Two throttle tubes are available for the RC8R – a round track version and oval road progressive version. There is no slipper clutch standard on the RC8R however the rear hop issue of the RC8 has been addressed with the RC8R ECU opening the rear cylinder throttle butterfly on run-in, bleeding off vacuum and making the bike fantastic into turns.

Alloy swingarm and trellis frame. 

KTM employs a chromium-molybdenum trellis frame for the RC8R, which has been powder coated.

The frame weighs a mere 7.5 kilograms in total, up to five kilos less than an alloy twin-spar type and has a rake of 23.3 degrees and trail of 97 millimeters, 5mm more than the RC8. 

Adjustable billet alloy anodised rearsets.
Weird suspension linkage system and WP shock.

Front suspension consists of fully adjustable 43mm up-side-down WP forks with TiN coating, which the RC8 did not have. The dual, 320 millimetre fully floating front rotors are 0.5mm thicker than on the RC8R and are squeezed by Brembo radial mount four piston monoblock calipers. The front and rear wheels are forged alloy Marchesini units measuring 3.50 x 17in and 6.00 x 17in. Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa 120/70 – 17 and 190/55 – 17 tyres are fitted standard.

Rear suspension is an upgraded adjustable WP monoshock with different internals and a softer 95Nm/mm spring over the RC8 110Nm/mm spring. A ride height eccentric offers 12mm variation, 5mm more than the RC8R. The seat height/sub-frame is adjustable independently of the ride height. The swingarm consists of five parts. Three cast alloy and two sections of layered sheet metal, which have been anodised. The team drew on their experience in MotoGP with Team KR and the end result is a swingarm closely linked to the one used in grand prix. The bars and levers are also adjustable.

There is a 54/46 weight bias on the RC8R. The R also comes with tank sliders, quick release rear axle, quick fit passenger seat and footrest hangers, detachable numberplate hanger and mirrors, racetrack knurled grip footpegs and R graphics. A revised screen ads 5km/h to top speed, a carbon-fibre front guard is fitted also.

The wheelbase was 1425mm and the seat height 825mm.

SPECIFICATIONS 2009 KTM RC8R

Price In 2009: $31,995 + ORC!

Claimed power: 127kW[170.3hp]@10,250rpm

Claimed torque: 123Nm[90.7ft-lbs]@8000rpm

Weight (wet without fuel): 182kg

Fuel capacity: 16.5L/3.5L reserve

Engine: LC8 liquid-cooled DOHC eight-valve 75-degree V-twin four-stroke

Bore and stroke: 105 x 69mm

Displacement: 1195cc

Compression ratio: 13.5:1

Fuel delivery: Dual Mikuni 52mm throttle-bodies

Exhaust: Stainless steel underslung two-into-one

Gearbox: Six speed cassette type gearbox

Ratios: N/A

Final ratio: 17/36

Clutch: Wet multiplate hydraulic actuation

Final drive: Chain

Frame type: Powdercoated Chrome-moly trellis frame, adjustable alloy sub-frame

Wheelbase: 1425mm

Rake: 23.3 degrees

Trail: 97mm

Front suspension: 43mm WP inverted forks with TiN coating, fully adjustable, 120mm travel

Rear suspension: WP monoshock, fully adjustable 5-way, 120mm travel

Front brake: Brembo monobloc radial-mount calipers, Brembo master-cylinder, 320mm semi-floating rotors

Rear brake: Single Brembo 220mm rotor with Brembo caliper

Front wheel: Marchesini forged alloy, 17 x 3.0in

Rear wheel: Marchesini forged alloy, 17 x 6.0in

Front tyre: Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP 120/70 – 17

Rear tyre: Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP 190/55 – 17

Ground clearance: 110mm

Seat height: 805/825mm

Instruments: CAN BUS technology, road and track settings, multi function display, speedo, tacho, trip meters, clock, engine and oil temp, average distance, fuel, fuel km, lap time, average seed, top speed, lap top compatible

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